Dodd
Dodd 1612' (5:21 FRCC 187)
Wainwright No 53.
Saturday 29th November 2003.

Weather :- Wet and windy, then got worse!

Accompanied by :- John, Sarah and Mike M.

Total Distance 3 Miles, total height ascended approx 1300 Feet, time taken 1 Hours 50 minutes. 

 

A strange walk this one. Everyone was available and ready for a walk. I needed to visit George Fisher's in Keswick to purchase a book and the new Wainwright DVD for a christmas present to myself from the mother in law (thank's very much) . That was the starting point for any plans that I had. Talking with John he thought it might be good to show Sarah "surprise view" above Ashness Bridge so he suggested a walk in that area. After his idea for the last walk I thought this was another great idea. So I came up with Grange Fell and Great Crag, the only problem was I thought that these would be much better from Grange rather than Watendlath. When I started to check the weather forecast I thought that doing them from Watendlath might not be such a bad idea after all, it was forecast for rain, and lot's of it!

Meanwhile, back in the real world, Sarah was feeling rough with a cold, and the weather forecast did not change no matter how many times I looked at it during the week! It was going to be wet. Never the less I decided to press on and go up on Saturday instead of changing it to Sunday (Sunday turned out to be a nice day, as per the forecast!) . Talking with Sarah we decided that a later than usual start was in order as she didn't fancy getting up at 6.30am, since I was going to my brother in law's 40th birthday do on the Friday night this was OK with me too! As it happened I was up at 6am working on a college project and Sarah didn't sleep very well either so she was awake bright and early as well!

So the plan was to meet at Preston sometime around 9.30am, this turned into about 10.15am as there was a problem with a car crash on the M6! Standing at the usual butty wagon I got soaked as I waited for my bacon and egg barm, I had stopped eating here lately but it was such a long time since my porridge at 6.05am that I had to have something! When the others eventually arrived we decided to head up the A6 to Lancaster instead of risking the motorway, this meant an even longer journey up north! On the way up I was busy rethinking the options for today, Sarah mentioned that she wouldn't mind looking round the shops and spending the afternoon in the pub! This was a definite possibility as we drove through some really bad weather up the M6! Arriving in Keswick I dutifully did my shopping, got the FRCC walking guide to the lakeland fells that I have only ever seen in George Fisher's but couldn't find the Wainwright DVD. When I got back in the car it was decision time. I had already made my mind up but I wanted confirmation and agreement from the others, that way it wouldn't be all my fault when we got wet! My theory about walking in the opposite area from the direction the weather was coming in from wasn't working today! I discussed my Plan B's i.e. Binsey or Latrigg, to my way of thinking these would be too exposed today, that left Dodd, not really a Plan B due to it's height but it did offer the possibility of some shelter in the trees and due to it's position below the bulk of Skiddaw could possible be dry (me and Plans don't mix!) So Dodd it was, I was pleased with this as I wanted to do this as a separate summit and not as part of the walk I have planned for the Skiddaw area! This also pleased Sarah as I told her there was a tea room and toilet at the start of the walk!


The Tea Room at Mirehouse , closed! The start of all the forest paths
Arriving at the car park at Mirehouse we found the  tea room closed, a building site that took up half of the car park and lots of rain! I was hoping to buy one of the forestry commission walk leaflets that show all the forest walks, Sarah was hoping to use the loo, John and Mike wanted some dry weather, so I guess none of us got what we wanted! Undeterred we all put on our waterproof (or used to be waterproof!) trousers and jackets. I turned on the GPS unit and like the last walk waited ages for it to track enough satellites to start navigating. This took an eternity, everyone waited patiently whilst I messed around with the gizmo until I realized that we were all getting wet waiting, I gave up in the end and tied it to my rucksack and left it to it's own devices! So with no detailed map of the forest paths we took the plunge and decided to follow the green way markers towards Dodd summit.
Heading up the first path A bench dedicated to Peggy Tyson
Well we didn't really as the sign post was pointing over the stream and as I had used this once before as a way down from Skiddaw I knew that it followed a metalled road all the way up to the col at Long Doors. This was not what I had in mind, and as we could just about see a green post on this side of the stream we followed this instead, hoping that this was the return part of the green signs (does that make sense?) I was putting lot's of faith in my memory of the area here, I knew that the way down would be OK and I was now hoping that the way up would be interesting, hopefully making our way upwards through the forest! The path made it's way up alongside Skill Beck, I found some parts of this quite steep. The path made a turn by a bench that had a plaque on it that said "FOR PEGGY TYSON 1918 - 2003 WHO LOVED THESE FELLS"  There was not much talking going on at the moment, the rain was definitely putting a bit of a dampener on every ones spirits (pun intended!) . John decided to run up one section as he was feeling cold and needed to get warmed up. We came across a family descending who had a couple of dogs with them. The mother dog just passed us by but the baby dog was obviously scared by the sight of us! There followed a bit of a mexican stand off as we waited for the young dog to pass us and it waited for us to go somewhere else! Eventually I took the decision to walk on past the dog and sod the consequences!
Still heading up towards a road junction Looking back down from the road junction
Once past the dogs we carried on up quite a steep path until we came out onto one of the forest roads. This came as a relief to me as I had found it hard work walking up here, we weren't going fast but I just don't think I was physically up for anything more than a gentle stroll today! Once on this road we soon found a junction and we turned to the right. This was nice and easy now as the road followed the contours around the fell side. The rain had started to ease somewhat and we had a chance to all walk together along the wide road. As the road rounded a corner we were able to look up at the summit and see it for the first time today. As I think about this I am beginning to realize what trust the others place on me during these walks, today they had not even been able to see Dodd at all, as far as they were concerned we just parked in a car park and started walking, even in this poor weather they just got on with it and followed my directions, well they couldn't really follow me as I was lagging behind again!
Walking along the forest road Dodd summit in view for the first time
The road made its way gradually up hill and soon came out above a clearing.  My first memories of Dodd must date back to about 1980 or so when I was on an Outward Bound course. I can vividly remember a mountainside totally covered by trees, I thought it was very scenic! My next memory must be from about 1986 when I started to work up here. This was not long after the Chernobyl incident and I remember all the restrictions placed on the farmers and livestock movements at the time. I was driving past and noticed many trees that looked dead. I was shocked and worried at the time but soon came to realize that some of these trees are deciduous! Now with a large swathe of trees felled, probably years ago, I still look back and remember the time when this fell side was full of trees. AW writes about the time before any trees were planted and he comments on how spoilt the landscape would soon look as the planting began. AW had his memories and I have mine, personally I liked the sight of a mountainside full of trees! But then again I never knew it as it was before. Something to ponder on!
The road above a cleared area John tries out the rock!
As the road made it's way along above the felled area we had come out of the shelter of Dodd, it was a dull wet day and we couldn't really see much of anything. We soon came to a place where one of green posts was. Here was the start of a path that left the road and made it's way straight up the fell side. Nearby was some exposed rock, probably exposed when they made these forest roads. John, obviously a bit fed up decided to chance his arm and see if it offered any opportunity to bring a bit of scrambling into the walk! I don't think he was impressed and soon gave up, it was just too wet and slippy for any fun!
A Panorama over Bassenthwaite towards Barf and Lord's Seat
While John tried out the rock I decided to take a bit of a panoramic photo as without any trees in the way we could see a good bit of Bassenthwaite and the area of Whinlatter Forest on the other side. The weather made this a bit difficult as everywhere you looked it was just murky, a very yuk sort of day!
A steep path leaves the forest road but soon levels out
The green posts indicated a path that led upwards away from the road. This looked quite steep so I just put my head down and got on with it, I just about managed to make it to the top without running out of steam!  I had given myself a bit of a head start on the others but as I neared the level section of this path they had caught me up! I was really not with it today.
Christmas Tree anyone? Along the path
Up here were lots of young trees that looked like they would sit nicely in my front room for a few weeks, I wonder if anyone would notice a missing one?, only joking of course! The path changed directions here and started to follow the fell side. again. I have to say that after the last few minutes of exertion this came as a pleasant relief for me. This path was much narrower than any that we had been on before and I have to admit that I really liked it!
Looking over Bassenthwaite towards Sale Fell Looking along the path
Making our way along this path I was having fun. The fact that I was being left behind by the others, it was wet and cold didn't bother me at all, what did bother me was that little nagging ache that was starting to make its presence felt in my toes. I had hoped that the problems with my feet were long behind me but the last walk had shown that I was wrong. At least on that walk they had waited until the last descent to begin playing up!
The path goes through some trees And onto the open fell side. again
As the path made its way back into the shelter of some trees after passing through an exposed part of the fell I called a halt for a cuppa. The others did not seem interested but I needed a drink. I sorted myself out whilst everyone else just stood there. I thought that we would be sheltered here but with every gust of wind the tree branches shook and deposited large amounts of water straight down on top of everyone. I don't think they were impressed!
John finds a dead Vole Into the cloud we go!
Having satisfied my thirst we again set off along the path, soon coming out onto the open fell side again. The small path joined a track and started to climb up the side of Dodd. John discovered the body of a small animal that he identified as a Vole, whatever one of those is  ! It had been run over by the wheels of some sort of vehicle, possible even by a bike, oh dear! John soon put the Vowel down and started to trudge off upwards, he seemed to be in one of his head down and get on with it moods today and he soon left me and Sarah lagging behind again! Mike sort of managed to keep up with him.
The start of a zigzag along the path with lots of rain now! And into the cloud again higher up
Soon we started to walk into the cloud, it was very windy and cold up here on the exposed side of Dodd. We had no views apart from the path in front of us but "onwards and upwards" we went! As we reached the start of some zig zags the weather took a turn for the worse as the wind increased it's ferocity and the rain started to come in sideways, this made it hard work walking directly into it, no fun at all!
A short detour to a view point , no view today! Heading higher up
At the end of the zig zag path we came to a tee junction. The way we wanted was to the left but a small path lead up to a small rise. I just had to have a wander over. On a clear day the view from here must be great but today all I could see was different shades of grey!  When I returned to the others who still waited at the path junction John asked me how far it was still to go. I know that he had been waiting here a while for me to catch up with him, and then he waited whilst I made a slight detour and back, all the time being buffeted by the wind and stung by the rain. He was wet, cold and fed up. I think he was ready to turn his back on Dodd and walk back to the car, it was the first time that I have ever seen John near the point of giving up! I convinced him that it could not be that much further and that once we had reached the summit we would be walking a different route back, probably (or did I say definitely!) in the shelter of Dodd. He agreed to carry on and again set off at a blistering pace.
Nearing Dodd summit Dodd summit
The way up to the summit, which wasn't that far away anyway, made its way in one direction and then another. Sarah and myself seemed to enjoy the point where we had our backs to the wind, we were nearly blown upwards at times! When we had to walk into the wind it was no fun at all.  Eventually we caught up with John and Mike who were trying to shelter just under the summit, I don't think they were having much success as it was blowing a gale!
John, Mike and Sarah on the summit of Dodd The terrible trio at Dodd summit
Sarah and myself just walked straight up to the summit, John and Mike followed and here it was, Dodd summit, no view, terrible weather, four wet and cold walkers and me with a camera who still insisted on trying to take some pictures (am I daft or what?) With no chance of any sort of panoramic photo I took a few photos of the summit, a quick snap of John Sarah and Mike and then handed the camera to Mike for him to take one of the terrible trio, there was no chance of us hanging around here waiting for the timer on the camera to wind down and take a snap of all of us! Of course just to make things harder the photos had to be taken with the people looking directly into the teeth of a gale, to try and protect the camera of course! Sarah seemed to struggle to stand upright and seemed a bit miffed that her face was not in any of the pictures!
Heading back down the way we came A brief glimpse of Latrigg
This must have been the shortest time we have ever spent on a summit! With no view, bad weather and not being able to think of any reason to stay here we headed back down. I must admit that I was relatively dry, warm and feeling quite happy apart from my feet of course! Now that we had reached today's objective I began to think about how the others were feeling, John I knew was not in good shape due to his aging equipment i.e. what was once waterproof and warm was no longer!  With the weather the way it was I thought now would be a good time to get back down quickly so I started to run back down the path that we had come up. Now I don't normally do "run", but today I thought I would make an exception! I could hear the others close behind me so I carried on, thinking that this was a good idea. I must have ran for at least , oh let me think, a minute or so at least! Then I realized that 1) I was knackered, 2) my feet hurt like hell, and 3) the weather had improved! I needed an excuse to stop running so I got out the camera (great things these digital cameras!) and took a picture of Latrigg that had suddenly appeared out of the clouds! (I like Latrigg now!) John and Sarah looked on in silence and carried on walking (they get a bit miffed when I stop to take silly photos!) Don't tell them that I do this to get a breather!
Nearing the col at Long Doors One of the Crags at Long Doors
We soon reached a road that we had crossed before and I told them to turn left. I was questioned about this but told them that this road headed to Long Doors and a great road back down to the car. This would offer us much more shelter than retracing our steps back (I hoped!)  This road headed straight for the Col between Dodd and Carl Side, and from there if my memory served me well onto a forest road that led directly back to the car park. At first this was an easy walk, it was going in the right direction, the weather was not as bad and now that we were heading back everyone's spirits seemed to improve. At one point the road turned away to the right and John took a small detour to see if there was a possible way forwards. I did not think this was a good idea as my memory sort of told me about some nearby crags. I was relying on my memory as 1) I did not have the forestry commission walking map route thing, 2) I was not going to get my map out in this weather , and 3) I knew I was right! Normally these thought are a recipe for disaster but I was sure about this. A bit of local knowledge and homework served me well as John returned from his detour shaking his head and I carried on walking. Around the corner, five minutes later we found the Col at Long Doors and the road that I remembered. Was that good planning and great memory or just dumb luck! One thing that struck me at the time was the noise, due to its location between the mass of Carl Side and Dodd this col acts as a wind tunnel. As the wind was still strong the noise was deafening, we could hardly hear ourselves and the smiles on the faces sort of told the story about how impressive this was!
Brighter weather over Bassenthwaite and Sale Fell Heading down the forest road
Once at the col the road that we were following turned into a fell walkers version of a motorway. Wide, flat and level!  The wind was still blowing but as it was directly behind us it helped our forward progress. Off in the distance we could see some sunshine on Sale Fell again, I knew what was coming next as John and Sarah started to say about the weather being nicer somewhere else today and why aren't we over there instead of here! This seems to be a recurring theme as whenever we have poor weather they can always manage to see somewhere that is bathed in sunshine, well at least not raining!
The camera fogging up down the road Should have gone up Sale Fell!
Just past the col we reached a junction of the roads, we took the smaller one to the left or the west side of what was to become Skill Beck. I remember the road on the other side as being a metalled road that was a bit boring, so the smaller road was chosen.  Due to my feet I was walking extremely slowly now but this seemed ok with the others as now that they were in shelter they had cheered up. A moment of confusion arrived when we reached a path that came up to meet the one we were on. It had a green post just down it and They wanted to follow it instead, I told them that this crossed Skill Beck and involved a bit of ascent on the other side, something that my feet did not want! So we carried on and soon reached a junction that they recognized (see, I can do plans!)
Retracing our steps from the road junction that The new construction work at Mirehouse
From here it was just a case of retracing our steps back to the car park. I was still walking very slowly and was looking forwards to getting out my stove and brewing up some hot chocolate, after all, it really went down well last time. I caught up with the others near the bench that I had photographed on the way up, Sarah had no memory of it at all, how weird is that! Maybe she was in head down mode at that time!  Arriving back at the car park I set up the cooker and started to boil some milk whilst everyone else took the opportunity to get changed in a relatively calm weather window. John eventually joined me for a drink of hot chocolate whilst Sarah and Mike declined and stayed in the car, why did I bother! John asked me what I had thought of the tree branch that had fallen down. I wondered what he was going on about and he then explained that as they were getting changed they had heard a noise and looked up to see a tree branch fall down to earth very near to where I had set up my cooker, I had not noticed a thing! After finishing off the last of the hot chocolate I hurriedly packed everything back into my rucksack and tried to get changed, of course I had missed the brief window in the weather and got soaked!
The GPS Track log from today's walk

We headed back into Keswick to see if I could do a bit more christmas shopping, I had no luck but was impressed with the display in Cotswold Outdoors of the new Memory Map 1:25000 maps on CD, ariel maps and 3D views! Very good, but at just under £100 a tad too expensive!  Sarah seemed smitten with a pair of gloves, but at £40 I thought that they were a bit too expensive and dissuaded her, sorry Mr Cotswold Outdoors! Despite our very late start it was still early and if we had gone to the Cross Keys in Tebay that had impressed us so much on the last walk we would have had to wait a few hours before they served food, I still thought this was a good idea but the general impression was get in a pub and eat now! So we ended up in Ye Olde Golden Lion (I think) again. Cheap food that wasn't that bad but it left us somewhat disappointed after our visits to the Cross Keys in Tebay add the Black Bull (I think) in Coniston.

So that was the last walk of 2003. A very wet, windy day that should have been spent anywhere else but on a fell side in the Lake District! We all learned something today, about our equipment, our medical conditions (well I did!) , the weather, my Plan B's and the prices of equipment in Keswick! John knew that all of his waterproofs (Berghaus) were old and did not really work anymore, my new £60 Sprayway waterproof over trousers were not totally waterproof either! This got me to thinking that these manufactures should rename their products to " waterproof-ish" or "will help slightly" or " won't stop you getting wet, but will make you think they will if it rains", but then again I can't remember the last time I walked in such poor conditions!

I think that I was the only one to actually enjoy today's walk, apart from my feet that caused a visit back to the doctors and being told off for stopping taking the pills and potions that had obviously been working, I had actually enjoyed it! Maybe I should have said "no walking today due to the weather" but I felt the need to" bag" another fell. I am convinced that you have to go through days like today to really appreciate the good days even more! Maybe that is selfish but now I am looking forwards to that time when there is snow on the fells, or the long hot days when you think it is too hot to walk!

Normally I have a good excuse or two if I take too long to write up the details of any walks that we do. This time I have a proper one ! Charlotte, my daughter, had an unfortunate incident with her new horse that left her in hospital having a 3 hour operation on her knee, 6 days in hospital, at least 4 weeks in a full length foot to groin plaster cast and god knows how many weeks of physio! She had managed to break for kneecap, tear the cruiciate ligaments away from the bone and needed her kneecap wiring together and her ligaments stapling to the bone!

No more walking for me (or Charlotte for a while!) So I look forwards to the new year and all that it will bring. Hopefully Charlotte will be soon up and about and I can get out on the fells! On the up side my son Matthew is starting to take an interest in what I have been doing as well as his football so he wants to go and climb some Mountains and go camping again with me as well! 2004 is going to be a busy year as I want to take Matthew up on the fells (I am thinking Holme Fell and the like) and one of my sisters friends turns out to be a secret walker as well (I am thinking the Outlying Fells here!) So all in all I can't wait for 2004, a new year, hopefully no injury's and lots more walking!